Not so long ago, I would’ve just kept my mouth shut.

August 16, 2010

Particularly since all of the people involved in this piece of nonsense are church friends of my parents. Look how far a few “You are a wonderful person. Keep sharing your opinion!”s have pushed me! Actually it’s quite nice to finally speak a bit of my mind on Facebook. One of my post-Nicaragua goals, as you’ll be able to read about in my journals (which I’m posting soon).

In the following exchange (which will probably get longer tomorrow..ha), I’ve dropped last names to protect the individuals’ privacy and retained first names to distinguish the commenters involved. I’ve left all comments completely unedited and uncut. Enjoy!

(Initial post) Chris: OUTRAGE! [along with this, “President Backs Ground Zero Mosque,” courtesy of Fox News, yeah]

Chris: …but no surprise.

Buddy: President Obama’s actions show a complete disrespect toward the families of three thousand victims that died at Ground Zero. Shame on him!

Donna: We saw it coming and yet we are so unable to do anything but watch the take over of our country. If we protest, then they will take the Baptist rights to building their place of worship according to what the people want. It would be stifling our rights also. So what do we do?

Buddy: This is not about the right to worship. It’s about protecting our country from a riligous fanatic that wants to distroy our country. By building this mosque it would encourage further actions toward us from muslum terrorist. It’s also about the three thousaand that died at the hand of these muslum terrorist, respecting the victims and thier families.

Ree: We’ve got to vote very carefully this election, write/email our representatives because it does make a difference (learned a couple of weeks ago that many ask ‘how many emails/calls/letters did we get on this’ before they vote on something)…find our voices…it’s past time…

Wes: There are currently over 20 mosques already in New York City. So why does another one have to be there? Again, not about religious freedom.

Juletta: Well Donna, we stop thinking like that…that is why we Christians are in the position we are in. It is time to take a stand and return our country to the people. Patch the screen doors and find our voices!!!!

Steve: Since when does Obama care about what the constitution says? We are under attack from an enemy within. You all should watch this movie, it will open your eyes to who Obama really is.

Chris: Dude, I had no idea there are videos this long on youtube! I don’t have time to watch it now, but just watching the first 5 minutes has be really anxious to watch the whole thing!

Me [Talia]: a) It’s not “a mosque.” It’s a community center that will have many features..among them, a swimming pool, an auditorium, and a mosque. b) It won’t be at Ground Zero. It will be two blocks north of Ground Zero. If this is the “Ground Zero mosque,” then shouldn’t every other building in the vicinity be judged the same way? The Ground Zero hair salon. The Ground Zero post office. The Ground Zero Baptist church. c) It’s not a monument to violence, and saying it is is attacking the vast majority of Muslims who are peaceful along with the few who are fanatical and violent.

Sandra: He didn’t exactly back it, he just said they could put one there. We are the land of the free, right? everyone equal? Do we automatically eye every Muslim with suspicion and distrust? How many horrendous crimes have been committed by Caucasians? I know it is a sensitive topic, but not everything is Obama’s fault!

Steve: USA is under attack of radical Islamist. They will stop at nothing to further their radical beliefs, including cutting you and your children’s heads off. Their goal is to demoralize and covert our nation by force to Islam. I believe they have an Ali in the White House. They are using our wonderful constitution against us. We need to look at these actions as a act of war!

Buddy: Talia is right . It isn’t at ground zero and it is a community center. However, we need to take a look at the man behind it all. A rdical, Christian and Untided States hating rdical on a mission to destroy this country. As for the “community Center” it is simply a tool used to introduce people to his views and build a stornger radical muslem following. I’m not fooled!

Me: Who is this mysterious man you keep referring to as being “behind it all”? The President? He’s Christian and it’s not his community center. Or Feisal Abdul-Rauf, the imam who’s actually planning the community center? He’s publicly condemned the 9/11 attacks and Osama bin Laden. Neither of these men qualify as radical Muslims. So should we just stop letting Muslims build anything? Should we round them up and kick them out of the US? Just how far do you think we should go to ensure that Muslims feel Christian hostility? I also feel like I should mention that Islam was actually introduced to the US with the slave trade and has been as foundational here as Christianity.

Chris: Couldn’t have said it better:

Me: How do you feel about the name of the organization Campus Crusade for Christ? Just wonderin’.

Steve: Obama a Christian? You might want to research that one. You know he hasn’t attended church since becoming president. The church he did attend is very questionable. Reverend Jeremiah Wright his pastor of over 20 years say “god F*** America” not God Bless America. He was educated in Muslim schools and goes around the world telling counties we’re not a Christian nation. He’s the first president to not observe the National Day of Prayer. These don’t seem like Christian actions regardless of is words. I don’t think Obama is a Muslim or a Christian. I think he worships and serves himself and is ideology.

Buddy: Campus Crusade for Christ promotes Christianity and tells folks about the freedom found in a life in Christ. Islam has a hatered for any other faith than thier own and calls Christians infidell dogs. Tell me how Islam is a peacfull religon. You as a woman would be considered property with very few if any rights.

Me: ‎[Re: Steve] A person’s church attendance is not an indicator of their Christianity or their religious beliefs, and what Wright ACTUALLY said was “God damn America.” We’re a nation of many peoples, and with that comes being a nation of many religions and belief systems. As long as the First Amendment’s in place, we won’t be a “Christian nation.”

Me: [Re: Buddy] The link Chris just posted was criticizing the community center for its proposed name, because “Cordoba” can be linked to a time of Islamic dominance. By that standard, the “Crusade” in CCC should be seen as a declaration of Christian force and a promotion of violence in the name of Jesus. I think we all know that’s not what Campus Crusade for Christ actually is, but when you look at the language they’re using, that’s the image they project. I see the same hostility in Christianity toward other religions, particularly toward Islam, so I don’t see much difference there. Within most branches of Christianity, I as a woman am still seen as inferior to men and a second-class human. I believe that’s wrong, no matter what religion you practice.

Steve: So your only argument to all my Illustrations of Obama’s unchristian like actions is, church attendance isn’t an indicator on Christianity? What does being able to be whatever religion you want having anything to do with Obama being Christian or not? You said he was a Christian. I pray for this county daily and I wish Obama was a Christian.

Me: No. I just disagree with you that these actions are necessarily “unChristian” and that they void Mr. Obama’s declaration of personal Christianity. You said one reason you know he’s not a Christian is that he’s denied the US is a Christian nation; I think that’s ridiculous.

Steve: I would suggest you do some in-depth research on Obama and his background. I posted a link above to a great informative movie.

Me: It’s okay, I have and will continue to do so. I make it a point to research everything. Thanks for the concern. ;]

Steve: Video of Obama Admitting he is a Muslim.!

Amy: Matthew 17:20 says that we should be able to recognize a Christ-follower by his/her fruit…so being involved in a body of believers is just one type of fruit that should be evident in our lives. I don’t know how or when you have seen mass killing from those who are Christ followers, but if you have, they are not getting that from OUR standard (the Bible).

Me: Jesus’s standard is obviously love, I agree, but there’s plenty of violence in the Bible that Christian extremists have drawn inspiration from. To say that Islam is a violent religion because the Qur’an contains injunctions to kill infidels but that Christianity isn’t a violent religion, despite the violence contained and often sanctioned in the Bible, is a double standard in my opinion.

Buddy: Tara, this is an example of why I take a stand against Islam: Ladies, here is how Islam treats it’s women. This is what Sharia Law can BENEFIT you. Oh, and this was just for not dressing like someone thought you should. Imagine what happens if you actually want to speak? Or, they may just want to marry off your 6 to 9 year old Daughters. Remember, Islam is a peaceful Religion. They just want to fit in, RIGHT. When was the last time you saw a woman beaten like that by the Church you go to? Just something to ponder.
74 lashes for women who are “un-Islamically” dressed |

Me: Of course I’m against this kind of treatment of women, but I’m against it in every religion. Because it does exist in most religions. There are some fundamentalist branches of Christianity who advocate horrible treatment of women, and even many of the more moderate denominations are still oppressive..they just wrap it up in a prettier package. And who’s arguing for Sharia law in the US?

Buddy: And who’s arguing for Sharia law in the US? Your favorite Imam, that’s who!

Me: I don’t have a favorite imam. I just think it’s ridiculous to suggest that we can and should stop people from building a community center on private property. That’s what this whole thing is about in the first place.

Buddy: You see a community center, I see a recruiting center for radical Islamist.

Me: Guess we better shut down the Westboro Baptist Church then.

Buddy: I don’t have a problem with thqt either. That place is anything but Christ like.


Haven’t posted anything Mark Driscoll lately!

July 14, 2010

So here’s one! I just got this message from a fellow named Bill:

“Hi Talia,

“I saw your ‘Mark Driscoll is a misogynist’ group. I see you have the usual collection of extreme Mark Driscoll quotes plus a few I haven’t seen.

“I am sending this message to hopefully broaden your outlook. Firstly I’ll come clean and admit I have a love/hate relationship with teachings of Mark Driscoll. His exegesis is ordinary (at times terrible). He will twist scripture to conform with his ultra conservative world view. But he is passionate and I have no doubt that he makes a big difference in lives of thousands of men (maybe even a few women).

“But what I want to stress is that Mark Driscoll’s strong world view is not just irritating to women it is irritating to many men as well. I could be described as a relatively androgynous male. I don’t watch sports, I’m not competitive, I’m happy to discuss my feelings, I don’t believe that females should be treated like princesses and I don’t think male preoccupation with sex is just a given.

“What I’m trying to say is that I find many of Driscoll’s views extremely insulting as a male. His views are not anti-woman. I know plenty of traditional young women (the kind who just want to marry a successful man and have babies) who love Driscoll with a passion.

“Kind Regards

I like Bill. We don’t quite agree, and he addresses our difference of opinion in a courteous way instead of sending me hate mail about it. So I replied:

“Hi, Bill! Thanks for the message and for sharing your perspective.

“I just want to say: The reason his views are insulting to you as an androgynous male (or one reason, anyway) is because he’s promoting his vision of ideal manhood as the standard for all people. To Driscoll, femme and androgynous guys, and even masculine guys who aren’t manly ‘enough’, don’t measure up to his vision of maleness because he’s defined anything that he thinks to be feminine as inferior. I completely agree with you when you say this hurts men as well as women, but I can’t agree with your statement that he’s not anti-woman. Even many women are anti-woman. It’s not that they consciously decide they’re going to promote hatred or fear or shaming of women, but there’s a lot of cultural programming that goes into building a misogynist, male or female. I also know many women of all ages who subscribe to his views, and that’s because they’ve been socialized all their lives to accept that men and women are very different and should interact in a hierarchy.

“Thanks again for taking the time to share your opinion in a kind way! :) Hate mail gets a bit tiring sometimes, and nice people are always refreshing! -Talia”

Do you think that was nice enough?

Dear Stupid Woman at the Post Office:

June 17, 2010

When you enter said post office without the package(s) you intend to send, you shouldn’t expect the Postmaster to know how much it’ll set you back. She doesn’t come equipped with ESP.

You probably don’t need to shove your customs form in the Postmaster’s face, either. She knows what they look like.

If you already know the answer to your question, is it really necessary to ask? If you really feel you must, could you at least keep a tiny bit of dignity by not contradicting yourself every three seconds?

Should you happen to remember that there are people in line behind you, perhaps you could make use of this fact as motivation to wrap your business up and move on out (of town) instead of glancing back  numerous times for support. “Postmaster’s an idiot! Amiright?” The fact that we’re standing on the same side of the counter doesn’t actually make us…on the same side. Just a thought.

I love how you utter sweeping condemnation of “government workers” and then reveal that you yourself were a “government worker” for twenty years! Way to go, ma’am! Kudos on your ability to put yourself in the shoes of your enemy! Oh, wait.

When you finally leave the post office in a huff and a flurry of customs forms, it’s generally considered bad form to immediately badmouth the Postmaster to the UPS guy standing outside the door.

You may also be interested in knowing that a good deal of laughter and mockery occurred directly following your dramatic exit. The Postmaster may or may not have let slip a bitter comment about right-wingers. Half a dozen people or more, strangers to you, are now in awe of your jackassin’ ways.

In short: simmer down and SHUT UP.


The smirking girl next in line.

Story below the break, haha. ;)

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You astro-nut!

June 3, 2010


vs. Trix!


Best cinematic dance-off scenes evarrr

May 31, 2010


and this.

They are, by the way, the best part of the whole movie (with Luann’s fashion sense and amazing specs as a close second). Lovelovelove their interaction!


I suddenly WANT THIS BOOK.

May 27, 2010

When it came to music, Matthew’s church similarly taught him that any pop music was evil, especially if it featured a (GASP) syncopated beat! We in the South, in contrast, were handed sound-alike charts by youth leaders and chapel speakers: “Like Journey? Listen to Petra! They sound just like Journey, only Christian!” (Yes, these sound-alike charts did, and probably still do, exist, as many of my readers will attest.) When he arrived at college to study music, he was a blank slate. The episode he relates of hearing Bob Dylan for the first time in class, and then raising his hand to ask who Dylan is, is heartbreaking, cringe-worthy, and hilarious all at the same time. It reminded me of so many music majors I met in school who dreamed of a career in “Christian music” but who had been sheltered from the vast majority of any kind of music. The only categories of music they knew were “Christian” and “secular” rather than “good” and “bad.”

There are many such “I want to cry and laugh out loud at the same time” moments in Hear No Evil, such as the story of a group of rebels from his church who conspire to arrange a clandestine trip to a (GASP again) Sandi Patty concert, his buying, throwing away, and re-buying (a total of four times) a contraband Amy Grant cassette, his “inspiration” to rewrite George Michael’s “Faith” with Jesus-y lyrics, and many others.  The combination of “this wouldn’t be funny if it weren’t so true” and Matthew’s keen self-awareness and honesty (I found myself repeatedly embarrassed for him) is a winning one.

Read the full review here, aaaaaaand enter to win by June 2.

THAT’S what she said.

May 25, 2010

“Drink, drink, drink! Oh, fiddle-dee-dink, I can dance with a drink in my hand!”