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I love Facebook fights. <_<

February 28, 2011

A friend of mine, generally open-minded and accepting, recently posted the Yahoo! Finance article “Ways Your Appearance Affects Your Paycheck” on his page. The article begins with the incredibly privileged statement, “How successful you become is mostly up to you. Success also depends on how you’re perceived by others. Numerous studies have shown looks can impact career advancement,” and then lists several qualities that will “earn” you a higher salary, including symmetrical features, the “right” height and weight, an “appropriate” degree of attractiveness, and so on. Cue Facebook Fight.

Me: “This is disgusting.

Me: “And the use of that picture in conjunction with this article is hilariously sad, because it’s from the Dove Campaign for Real Beauty. Which, skewed as it is by capitalism, is still a call to value the beauty of real people instead of holding them to standards of perfection that are not only impossible to reach (or maintain), but offensive (often racist), as well.

Friend: “I didn’t think it was THAT bad. It doesn’t explicitly say, ‘If you’re prettier you get a raise.’ In fact, it even says if you’re ‘TOO pretty’ it can actually be bad. It just gives tips on what to wear and how to present yourself, and it’s not something that everyone can’t do. Like no beards, or smile, or don’t be overweight.”

Me: “‘Skinny women.’ That right there’s actually a huge chunk of what’s wrong with it. Not everyone can (or should) be the same weight. It’s not like there’s one ideal weight for everyone. This article isn’t just about presenting oneself professionally, it’s about how people with symmetrical features or the “right” body type, and also people who conform to society’s gender and sexual expectations, are more highly-paid than those who don’t measure up in terms of physical appearance and those who aren’t interested in altering their appearance, quite literally, for the Man. If two women hold the same job, should the femme one have a higher salary than the butch one? Why is salary based on appearance and personal expression? It should be about skills, qualifications, talent.”

Friend: “I do agree about the skinny women thing and I don’t think everyone should be skinny, but I do think everyone should be healthy. And I’m all for equality and self expression and individuality, and I think it’s sad that more of our society isn’t, but I think it’s on it’s [sic] way. 100 years ago, women and people of alternative ethnic backgrounds couldn’t hold the same positions as white men did. Look how much things have changed since then, our president is black (my lambo is blue), we have female senators, CEOs, etc. I think the same thing is about to happen for people with alternative sexual orientations. They just take time though.”

Me: “I want people to be healthy too. Especially the people I love. So. Is an unhealthy weight grounds for paying someone less money than a person with the same job description but a healthier weight for their body type? (And that can only be determined by a doctor, contrary to popular opinion. Not everyone who’s considered “overweight” actually is.) Is it an employer’s job to regulate the weight of their employees? Or their health? If that’s the case, what about all the people with other health issues–cancer, diabetes, pregnancy, depression, etc.? You’re right, we’ve come a long way, but there’s still much room for improvement. There are still glass ceilings that haven’t been shattered. Women can head powerful corporations, but women as a whole still earn 77 cents to a man’s dollar. If you live in the right state, you might be able to elect queer politicians, but queer kids are still being bullied to death, literally, and much of mainstream pop culture does nothing but drive home the point that people who are different are wrong. Part of the process toward social progress is fighting the harmful things we find in our culture. There WON’T be progress without teenage lesbians suing their schools for the right to wear tuxedos to prom, people refusing to participate in a system that bases worth on physical appearance over innate qualities, etc.”

THE END, he didn’t want to play anymore. v_v

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Not so long ago, I would’ve just kept my mouth shut.

August 16, 2010

Particularly since all of the people involved in this piece of nonsense are church friends of my parents. Look how far a few “You are a wonderful person. Keep sharing your opinion!”s have pushed me! Actually it’s quite nice to finally speak a bit of my mind on Facebook. One of my post-Nicaragua goals, as you’ll be able to read about in my journals (which I’m posting soon).

In the following exchange (which will probably get longer tomorrow..ha), I’ve dropped last names to protect the individuals’ privacy and retained first names to distinguish the commenters involved. I’ve left all comments completely unedited and uncut. Enjoy!

(Initial post) Chris: OUTRAGE! [along with this, “President Backs Ground Zero Mosque,” courtesy of Fox News, yeah]

Chris: …but no surprise.

Buddy: President Obama’s actions show a complete disrespect toward the families of three thousand victims that died at Ground Zero. Shame on him!

Donna: We saw it coming and yet we are so unable to do anything but watch the take over of our country. If we protest, then they will take the Baptist rights to building their place of worship according to what the people want. It would be stifling our rights also. So what do we do?

Buddy: This is not about the right to worship. It’s about protecting our country from a riligous fanatic that wants to distroy our country. By building this mosque it would encourage further actions toward us from muslum terrorist. It’s also about the three thousaand that died at the hand of these muslum terrorist, respecting the victims and thier families.

Ree: We’ve got to vote very carefully this election, write/email our representatives because it does make a difference (learned a couple of weeks ago that many ask ‘how many emails/calls/letters did we get on this’ before they vote on something)…find our voices…it’s past time…

Wes: There are currently over 20 mosques already in New York City. So why does another one have to be there? Again, not about religious freedom.

Juletta: Well Donna, we stop thinking like that…that is why we Christians are in the position we are in. It is time to take a stand and return our country to the people. Patch the screen doors and find our voices!!!!

Steve: Since when does Obama care about what the constitution says? We are under attack from an enemy within. You all should watch this movie, it will open your eyes to who Obama really is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

Chris: Dude, I had no idea there are videos this long on youtube! I don’t have time to watch it now, but just watching the first 5 minutes has be really anxious to watch the whole thing!

Me [Talia]: a) It’s not “a mosque.” It’s a community center that will have many features..among them, a swimming pool, an auditorium, and a mosque. b) It won’t be at Ground Zero. It will be two blocks north of Ground Zero. If this is the “Ground Zero mosque,” then shouldn’t every other building in the vicinity be judged the same way? The Ground Zero hair salon. The Ground Zero post office. The Ground Zero Baptist church. c) It’s not a monument to violence, and saying it is is attacking the vast majority of Muslims who are peaceful along with the few who are fanatical and violent.

Sandra: He didn’t exactly back it, he just said they could put one there. We are the land of the free, right? everyone equal? Do we automatically eye every Muslim with suspicion and distrust? How many horrendous crimes have been committed by Caucasians? I know it is a sensitive topic, but not everything is Obama’s fault!

Steve: USA is under attack of radical Islamist. They will stop at nothing to further their radical beliefs, including cutting you and your children’s heads off. Their goal is to demoralize and covert our nation by force to Islam. I believe they have an Ali in the White House. They are using our wonderful constitution against us. We need to look at these actions as a act of war!

Buddy: Talia is right . It isn’t at ground zero and it is a community center. However, we need to take a look at the man behind it all. A rdical, Christian and Untided States hating rdical on a mission to destroy this country. As for the “community Center” it is simply a tool used to introduce people to his views and build a stornger radical muslem following. I’m not fooled!

Me: Who is this mysterious man you keep referring to as being “behind it all”? The President? He’s Christian and it’s not his community center. Or Feisal Abdul-Rauf, the imam who’s actually planning the community center? He’s publicly condemned the 9/11 attacks and Osama bin Laden. Neither of these men qualify as radical Muslims. So should we just stop letting Muslims build anything? Should we round them up and kick them out of the US? Just how far do you think we should go to ensure that Muslims feel Christian hostility? I also feel like I should mention that Islam was actually introduced to the US with the slave trade and has been as foundational here as Christianity.

Chris: Couldn’t have said it better: http://questionablemotives.wordpress.com/2010/07/21/whats-wrong-with-building-a-mosque-near-ground-zero/

Me: How do you feel about the name of the organization Campus Crusade for Christ? Just wonderin’.

Steve: Obama a Christian? You might want to research that one. You know he hasn’t attended church since becoming president. The church he did attend is very questionable. Reverend Jeremiah Wright his pastor of over 20 years say “god F*** America” not God Bless America. He was educated in Muslim schools and goes around the world telling counties we’re not a Christian nation. He’s the first president to not observe the National Day of Prayer. These don’t seem like Christian actions regardless of is words. I don’t think Obama is a Muslim or a Christian. I think he worships and serves himself and is ideology.

Buddy: Campus Crusade for Christ promotes Christianity and tells folks about the freedom found in a life in Christ. Islam has a hatered for any other faith than thier own and calls Christians infidell dogs. Tell me how Islam is a peacfull religon. You as a woman would be considered property with very few if any rights.

Me: ‎[Re: Steve] A person’s church attendance is not an indicator of their Christianity or their religious beliefs, and what Wright ACTUALLY said was “God damn America.” We’re a nation of many peoples, and with that comes being a nation of many religions and belief systems. As long as the First Amendment’s in place, we won’t be a “Christian nation.”

Me: [Re: Buddy] The link Chris just posted was criticizing the community center for its proposed name, because “Cordoba” can be linked to a time of Islamic dominance. By that standard, the “Crusade” in CCC should be seen as a declaration of Christian force and a promotion of violence in the name of Jesus. I think we all know that’s not what Campus Crusade for Christ actually is, but when you look at the language they’re using, that’s the image they project. I see the same hostility in Christianity toward other religions, particularly toward Islam, so I don’t see much difference there. Within most branches of Christianity, I as a woman am still seen as inferior to men and a second-class human. I believe that’s wrong, no matter what religion you practice.

Steve: So your only argument to all my Illustrations of Obama’s unchristian like actions is, church attendance isn’t an indicator on Christianity? What does being able to be whatever religion you want having anything to do with Obama being Christian or not? You said he was a Christian. I pray for this county daily and I wish Obama was a Christian.

Me: No. I just disagree with you that these actions are necessarily “unChristian” and that they void Mr. Obama’s declaration of personal Christianity. You said one reason you know he’s not a Christian is that he’s denied the US is a Christian nation; I think that’s ridiculous.

Steve: I would suggest you do some in-depth research on Obama and his background. I posted a link above to a great informative movie.

Me: It’s okay, I have and will continue to do so. I make it a point to research everything. Thanks for the concern. ;]

Steve: Video of Obama Admitting he is a Muslim.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY&feature=player_embedded#!

Amy: Matthew 17:20 says that we should be able to recognize a Christ-follower by his/her fruit…so being involved in a body of believers is just one type of fruit that should be evident in our lives. I don’t know how or when you have seen mass killing from those who are Christ followers, but if you have, they are not getting that from OUR standard (the Bible).

Me: Jesus’s standard is obviously love, I agree, but there’s plenty of violence in the Bible that Christian extremists have drawn inspiration from. To say that Islam is a violent religion because the Qur’an contains injunctions to kill infidels but that Christianity isn’t a violent religion, despite the violence contained and often sanctioned in the Bible, is a double standard in my opinion.

Buddy: Tara, this is an example of why I take a stand against Islam: Ladies, here is how Islam treats it’s women. This is what Sharia Law can BENEFIT you. Oh, and this was just for not dressing like someone thought you should. Imagine what happens if you actually want to speak? Or, they may just want to marry off your 6 to 9 year old Daughters. Remember, Islam is a peaceful Religion. They just want to fit in, RIGHT. When was the last time you saw a woman beaten like that by the Church you go to? Just something to ponder.
74 lashes for women who are “un-Islamically” dressed | Planet-Iran.com

Me: Of course I’m against this kind of treatment of women, but I’m against it in every religion. Because it does exist in most religions. There are some fundamentalist branches of Christianity who advocate horrible treatment of women, and even many of the more moderate denominations are still oppressive..they just wrap it up in a prettier package. And who’s arguing for Sharia law in the US?

Buddy: And who’s arguing for Sharia law in the US? Your favorite Imam, that’s who!

Me: I don’t have a favorite imam. I just think it’s ridiculous to suggest that we can and should stop people from building a community center on private property. That’s what this whole thing is about in the first place.

Buddy: You see a community center, I see a recruiting center for radical Islamist.

Me: Guess we better shut down the Westboro Baptist Church then.

Buddy: I don’t have a problem with thqt either. That place is anything but Christ like.

Something refreshing! “Murder has no religion”

November 9, 2009

[Murder has no religionby Arsalan Iftikhar, international human rights lawyer, founder of TheMuslimGuy.com, contributing editor for Islamica magazine in Washington]

Washington (CNN) — Most of the world’s 1.57 billion Muslims know that the Holy Quran states quite clearly that, “Anyone who kills a human being…it shall be as though he has killed all of mankind….If anyone saves a life, it shall be as though he has saved the lives of all mankind.”

Accordingly, it should come as little surprise to any reasonable observer that when Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan recently committed his shocking acts of mass murder at Fort Hood, Texas, America’s Muslim community of over 7 million felt an added sense of horror and sadness at this senseless attack against the brave men and women of the US armed forces.

True to form, many conservative media pundits wasted little time in pointing to reports that Hasan had said “Allahu Akbar” (Arabic for “God is great”) at the start of his murderous rampage. News coverage continuously showed the looping convenience store black-and-white videotape footage of Hasan wearing traditional white Islamic garb.

First of all, someone simply saying “Allahu Akbar” while committing an act of mass murder no more makes their criminal act “Islamic” than a Christian uttering the “Hail Mary” while murdering an abortion medical provider, or someone chanting “Onward, Christian Soldiers” while bombing a gay nightclub, would make their act “Christian” in nature.

Simply put; murder is murder and has no religion whatsoever.

Professor Juan Cole of the University of Michigan once wrote that, “One most certainly does insult Muslims by tying their religion to movements such as terrorism or fascism. Muslims perceive a double standard in this regard: Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols would never be called ‘Christian terrorists’ even though they were in close contact with the Christian Identity Movement. No one would speak of Christo-fascism or Judeo-fasicm as the Republican[s] … speak of Islamo-fascism….[Many people also] point out that [it was] persons of Christians of Christian heritage [who] invented fascism, not Muslims.”

According to Pentagon statistics, there were over 3,400 American Muslims serving in the active-duty military as of April 2008. The Wall Street Journal reported that many officials believe “the actual number of [American] Muslim soldiers may be at least 10,000 higher than the Pentagon statistics.”

Thus, with thousands of patriotic American Muslim women and men proudly serving in our United States Army in places like Iraq and Afghanistan, perhaps it would behoove our army leaders to consider sending a strong message of American unity by appointing an American Muslim to be a part of the prosecution team against Hasan.

This would help show that the mass murders allegedly committed by Hasan have nothing to do with the teachings of our religion.

The United States Army can send a resounding message to all Americans and the rest of the world that the social fabric of our country will never become unraveled by murderous (and irreligious) gun-wielding felons–whether it is a Muslim in Fort Hood, Texas, or a non-Muslim on a shooting rampage in an Orlando, Florida high-rise less than a day later.

By appointing a multicultural (and multireligious) legal prosecution team made up of military lawyers of all races and religions, we can set a good example to show the rest of the world that our American legal justice system is truly equal for all people, regardless of their race, religion or socioeconomic status.

The larger point is that Muslims in America completely disavow and wash our hands of any acts of murder (or terrorism) claimed to be performed in the name of our religion. Acts of mass murder, regardless of their time or place, are simply ungodly criminal acts that have no religion whatsoever.

I’m filing away this comeback for future reference. :)

July 12, 2009

by Tak Toyoshima

Hi, I’m a liberal piece of shit! What’s your name?

April 3, 2009

Yesterday I was checking my stats page, and it said I had a new incoming link from this other WordPress blog..so I clicked on it, and wow. It’s called “The Black Plague: Not a white supremist, just a white realist”. What it is, is a categorical demonizing of African-American people. You can read categorical in a literal sense. I’m actually really upset about it. So I commented on the post that had linked to mine (they didn’t link to me on purpose, just from a randomly generated “related post” kinda thing–we both used the phrase “hall of shame”) and I took extra time with my wording so it would be honest and fair without  coming off as just more hate. This was my best shot, in light of the circumstances:

“Um, what IS this? I hope you’re prepared for a lot of anger. And honestly I do hope this makes people angry, what you’re apparently doing here under the name of ‘realism’. I’m white–and extremely offended at the way you generalize our black brothers and sisters.”

And here’s the answer I got:

“What is this? It’s called FREE SPEECH liberal POS. If you don’t like it you don’t have to agree, just move on. And of course it’s OK for negroes to hate on white people in their blogs and I’ll bet you don’t go in there whining to them about the content, do you white negro lover? Oh one more thing: They are NOT my brothers and sisters so don’t include me in ‘our’. Bye and have a nice life with negroes.”

Needless to say, I’m now even more upset. Of course, feel free to hit them with your own comments as you feel the need.

What an interesting concept, to LIKE church.

November 20, 2008

Since I’m attending an Assemblies of God [but borderline non-denom, apparently] church now, I figured I should probably do some research on what exactly the denomination as a whole believes. Thus far I’m pretty impressed. It’s a heck of a lot better than the garbage my ex-denom was handing out. I won’t say I agree 100% with all of their positions [for example, I think I’m a preternist] but for the most part, I’m excited with what I’m finding out:

Women are welcomed into leadership positions and encouraged to lead and fill various roles. Including “pastor”. The rich history of female leaders [Deborah, Esther, Phoebe, Junia, etc] is celebrated as it should be. :]

“The Assemblies of God strongly opposes abuse and the many tragic forms of dysfunction now plaguing our world. It must grieve the heart of God, who cares greatly for the downtrodden, to see one human being abuse another. It must also grieve the heart of God too if His children observe abuse and sit idly by, allowing the evil to continue.”

Political endorsements from a church are recognized for what they are: divisive and destructive.

In times of war, people are encouraged to follow their own consciences and to listen for God to speak to them personally about participating as a combatant or noncombatant or choosing not to participate as a conscientious objector.

A strong, honest work ethic is important to all societies.

Giving to and caring for the poor is a top priority.

The need for a holistic Sabbath is recognized.

Opinion on capital punishment it mixed, because it’s such a complex issue.

Creation care is recognized as an important responsibility of human beings.

They encourage teaching children healthy views of various holidays [teaching, for instance, that Christmas is more about giving than getting] while still enjoying and celebrating them.

Racism in any form is absolutely rejected, but acknowledged as a still-serious issue that continues to confront society, including the church.

Honesty and integrity are highly valued. [Although I wouldn’t be willing to literally endanger someone’s life or something equally serious. You know what would royally suck? Being a runaway slave, for example, or a Jew hidden in someone’s attic–only to find that if someone happened to knock on their door, they weren’t prepared to cover for you.]

Black, white, tan.

October 4, 2008

I love this song. :]

When you think of Americans, how do you picture them? Do you think of people with an American family history a foot long, or people who still only know a few English words? Do you think of people whose ancestors worked hard to establish themselves as newcomers to this country, or people who are working to establish themselves here now? Do you see it as either/or?

Wherever you stand on illegal immigration, it never fails to amaze me how downright mean people can be to immigrants themselves. When you see a Mexican family at the grocery store, congratulations! You now know that they’re a Mexican family! When you see someone jabbering on their cell phone in Spanish, congratulations! You now know they speak Spanish! You don’t know these people, you don’t know their legal status. You don’t know anything about them. And if you choose to discriminate against them or treat them as if you’re sort of unsure of their right to be walking on this ground, congratulations! You’re either ignorant or racist or both. And let’s say you’re right. Let’s say, for the sake of argument, your suspicions are correct, and the folks you’ve run into arrived here illegally. Does that give you a right to treat them differently? I hope not! They’re still people, and this is still America.

My great-grandfather got here by lying about his age. That’s not exactly “legal immigration,” if you catch my drift. And he was by no means the only less-than-legit immigrant by way of Ellis Island. If you’ve ever read anything about historical immigration, you should know there were all kinds of tricks to get in when they meant to keep you out, and there were tons of people who perfected them. Lie about your age. Lie about your friends and family. Lie about the job you have waiting. And don’t forget, if they mark your coat with a white letter, turn it inside out and put it back on. But he was from Greece, so, you know. Somehow it’s different. Only it’s not. Remember the 1800s? Okay, stop, you know what I mean. When multiple forces combined and drove the Irish to emigrate to American in large numbers? Good. It’s good to be on the same page. All right then. The “real” Americans resented the Irish coming and filling jobs. People rioted and fought and discriminated to the moon. Employers put “No Irish Need Apply” signs in their windows. NINA was a catchphrase, and it was somehow considered “patriotic” to dislike the Irish, to fill your speech with racial slurs against them. Sure, there were problems back in their home country, but they weren’t your problem, now, were they?

Check out this exerpt from Tom de Haven’s 2005 novel It’s Superman! which is set in 1930s rural Kansas:

“Our friend Mr. Jiggs?” says Dutcher.
“Yes, sir.”
“Wanted a candy bar, did he?”
“I don’t know what he wanted,” says Clark. “It never got that far.”
“So how far
did it get?”
“He started in calling Alger names.”
Said, “You expect to find woolly-heads in Kansas City, but you got ’em
here, too?”
Said, “Why somebody in these sad times got the
gall to go and let a nigger work a job could be done by a white boy is just something that burns my ass.”
Said, “And why ain’t he wearing gloves, anyhow? Touching food.”
Dutcher passes a hand over his eyes, gets up, and stretches. “That’s what he said, huh? With no provocation?”
“He just started talking.”
“How did Alvin react?”
“Alger. And he didn’t.”
Not at all. He merely looked back over at Clark and said if there was nothing else, that’d be forty cents, please.
“You ignoring me, sonny?” said the man.
“I didn’t think you were talking to anybody in particular,” said Alger, but he was still facing Clark, saying that like he was saying it to him….
“So Alger mouthed off and Makley pushed you away to mix it up. That it?”
“Alger didn’t mouth off. He just said he didn’t think the guy was talking to anybody in particular.”
“Funny boy, huh?”
Alger swallowed, but never blinked. Addressing Clark again, he said, “Your total’s forty cents. Sir.”
“You think you’re a funny boy,
that what you think? You come on out from behind there, hear me? And you, sonny”–the man Clark had recognized as Jiggs Makley was glaring at him now–“you go on back and take his damn place. I don’t want to be waited on by no woolly-head thinks he’s a funny nigger boy. Hey. What’re you looking at?”

To think we as a country have moved past this is absurd. If it’s not blacks (and sometimes it is), it’s Mexicans. Or Arabs. Or fill in the blanks. It makes me sad to be a part of this place. I think we’re better than this, but as long as we keep marketing prejudice and racism as patriotism, we’ll never get where we need to be. America used to be proud of its melting-pot image. We used to be what other countries dreamed about. We were the land with golden streets.

We are NINA, we are segregation all over again.

Here’s a bit from my blogging friend Travis: “America has come a long way when it comes to race relations: slavery and segregation have been abolished, most employers are equal opportunity, etc. And yet in the 21st century, Dr. King’s dream has not been completely fulfilled yet. The immigration debate never fails to stir up strong emotions. I understand both sides of the issue, but what disturbs me is how too often the debate switches from just illegal immigrants to all immigrants. One of my Christian friends did a MySpace survey not too long ago, and one of the questions was, ‘What do you think about Mexicans?’ I was shocked when my friend answered, ‘Keep some of them here, but send the rest back.’ Let me remind you that the question did not ask about illegal immigrants: the question was specifically about Mexicans! First of all, not all Hispanics are illegal immigrants. Second, America was founded by immigrants (pilgrims, anyone?). Third, where in the Bible does it say anything about God favoring one race over another? ‘There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.’ (Galatians 3:28)”

Most of us are familiar with a poem called The New Colossus. It’s engraved on the Statue of Liberty, for heavens sake. Take a minute to read it if you haven’t in a while:

The New Colossus [by Emma Lazarus]

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

Look at her! Isn’t she wonderful? I got to see her once. It was amazing! Interestingly, most of the words flying around that day weren’t English. There were more Spanish-, Japanese-, German-speaking families and photographers than there were your stereotypical Americans [like us]. I didn’t know any of them; I don’t know if they were Mexican-American and Japanese-American and German-American, or if they weren’t American at all. Maybe they were visiting friends and decided to drop in on Lady Liberty before they flew home. They were all so excited, and no matter where they lived, it was pretty clear that they were proud of the Statue, proud of what it means, proud to get to pose in front of it for their Christmas card photo. Sometimes I think they value our own Statue of Liberty more than we do. Sometimes I wonder if we believe in her at all.